What is he? (Noah Ringer)

[NightBender]

If find it interesting that most racebenders agree that he could be of mixed race. He does have a quality to him that gives off that impression. What I wonder is, say we find out (which we wont) that he is 1/2 Asian or 1/4 Asian, where does the argument go? What happens to the 'Asian kids can't identify with the character' standpoint? Is that still the case? It would have to be, right? Either you think kids of Asian decent can identify with him now or not. What is actual heritage may be is useless.

My great grandfather was of Mongolian descent, but I've never really considered it significant - although 1/8 or 1/16 of your genealogy isn't necessarily insignificant now-a-days. The largest percentage of any 'nationality' that I am is a quarter. Everything else is half that or less. And that's the way a lot of kids are in this day and age.

[Project 86]

^ Believe it or not i got into little argument with some dudes over at IMDB and they said it does'nt matter because basically they said he is'nt a real Asian unless he is 100% so it does'nt count

[badly bruised muse]

I approve of picspamming hot Eurasian guys.
I honestly think you're deluding yourself if you think Noah's background includes some substantial percentage of East Asian-ness. It doesn't impress anyone if he's 1/16th Korean. For all intents and purposes, he is white. You just want to see someone non-white because it would validate your delusion that what they've done with the casting is right. And that rhymes.

Bravo, very nice rhyming skills, I'm sure.
Golly, abs, are my feeling supposed to be hurt, cuz' you relentlessly keep taking cheap shots at my character?
I'm not deluded thank you very much, please take your foot out your mouth. What proof do you have that he is any bit of white at all? I was fine with casting since jump street, my point is the Racebending propaganda is based on information that is not even proven. Being part Asian does not make one less Asian, quite frankly, I would call it delusional to think otherwise. What? Because I'm on only part African american.. am I no longer considered black?

- some one buy this kid a clue.

I'm entitled to my opinions, as you are yours. If you know he's white prove it. I've admitted that I have no Idea if he is Asian or not. Maybe he is just white, I wouldn't care either way... however, it would put a dent in your stance against the casting.

If find it interesting that most racebenders agree that he could be of mixed race. He does have a quality to him that gives off that impression. What I wonder is, say we find out (which we wont) that he is 1/2 Asian or 1/4 Asian, where does the argument go? What happens to the 'Asian kids can't identify with the character' standpoint? Is that still the case? It would have to be, right? Either you think kids of Asian decent can identify with him now or not. What is actual heritage may be is useless.
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Honestly, when I hear them go on and on about the poor children and their lost of an idol... I'm thinking Cry me A river. As I child I never identified with race, nor understood it. As an adult teen looking a my 4 year old cousin, or my 14 year old step brother...it's not about color to them. They relate to all sorts of heroes of different colors.. Ben 10, Teen Titans, Batman, Superman, Dora the explorer, Disney Princesses... etc. It shouldn't matter what color they are! This type of thinking of "Oh well she is purple and I'm blue so we can't relate" is what keeps us alienated from each other. Why does my hero have to look like me to make a significant impact on my life? Why do I need will smith to play all my heroes so I can feel validated everyday? I think it's a sad mind set these people have.

[absinthe_spoons]

I think you're confused. Why you have become so entitled as to think that every post in this thread is directed at you, I can't imagine. I'm not the one making this into some kind of personal vendetta. You are.
What matters when it comes to Noah Ringer's race is not what he is, but what he is perceived to be. Perception is everything when it comes to race in the movies.
See this guy?

You may recognize him from the craptastic canceled FOX show, Prison Break. He's half-black. Does that matter in the context of his acting roles? Not a bit. In fact, the fact that his character was white was occasionally a plot point in the first (and only good) season. The audience identified him as a white guy playing a white guy.
In part aided by the racebending movement itself, nobody who doesn't really want him to be Asian is going to see Noah as anything other than Caucasian. Besides, he only looks vaguely ethnic when he has hair. When he's bald (i.e. in the film) he doesn't have that quality.

[Project 86]

there is a big difference he does'nt look it noah has several asian features people are not just throwing out the looks Asian just to satisfy some racebenders.

[badly bruised muse]

. He's half-black. Does that matter in the context of his acting roles? Not a bit. In fact, the fact that his character was white was occasionally a plot point in the first (and only good) season. The audience identified him as a white guy playing a white guy.
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Hm. Ok well let's pretend for second that I agree with the notion that just because someone LOOKS to be one way, when they are actually another, cancels out whatever they actually are.That way your ends justify your means.
Because, of course, in your world everyone thinks just as superficially as you do, right?

So with that said, Yeah this dude definitely comes across as white. However, I can not say the same about Noah... He doesn't come across white! That blows that theory out the water. There are just as many people who see Asian in him as there are who see only a white boy.

[Kaiser Avatar]

I'm not going to go through the entire roundtable transcript to find it, but didn't Shyamalan admit that he didn't know Noah Ringer's ethnic background? In fact, that's the whole reason the Air Nomads are a mixture of races? Because Noah looks like a mixture of a few races? Anyone else remember this, specifically our fearless leader who wrote that entire thing?

[absinthe_spoons]

I'm sorry, but I believe there's a severe bias going on here. Pro-casters don't want Noah to be white, so it's natural that any vaguely ethnic-looking features are going to mean more to them. If they didn't want him to be part-Asian so badly, any fractional East Asian background he might have wouldn't matter as much to them.

[badly bruised muse]

I'm sorry, but I believe there's a severe bias going on here. Pro-casters don't want Noah to be white, so it's natural that any vaguely ethnic-looking features are going to mean more to them. If they didn't want him to be part-Asian so badly, any fractional East Asian background he might have wouldn't matter as much to them.

You continue to claim, like many others who side with you, that the pro-casters are desperately hording what ever hints of Asian Noah Ringer has to justify the casting. When in actuality, and speaking for myself right now, I see a very blatant Asian physicality. He does not look like he is white. Plain and simple.

[Project 86]

AGAIN..

i could care less what Noah's ethnicity is imo he looks perfect for aang in every way i am just stating my opinion that he has asian features MNS said the same thing himself that he felt Noah was mixed.

and yes we get it you are an anti caster