What is he? (Noah Ringer)

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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby Project 86 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:07 pm

helping what case ?

no on here is claiming noah is'nt white we just are not ignorant to not see that he is mixed

i dont feel casting noah was bad casting the opposite actually dead on casting if you ask me

i have seen actual asian kids who auditioned and they looked nothing like aang while noah does so what does that mean?

this goes all the way back to the animation of Aang in the show is he suppose to be Asian?yes (with his name his background,outfit,etc.) but he does'nt look as distinctly Asian as say Iroh/Azula/Ty Lee Mai/ who cant be interpreted as anything but Asian.

i think Aang himself in the show was mixed of some sort just look at the monk kids all very different from each other
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby Kaiser Avatar on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:10 pm

They're primary target is The Last Airbender and there's no doubt about that. I shouldn't have to explain. And what I'm saying goes beyond the credibility of their slogan. It's the credibility of their entire stance on the movie. Others have already explained that very well in this thread, so it bares no need to be repeated.
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby badly bruised muse on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:30 pm

I think it's amusing when pro-casters seem to think that the racebending movement's official opposition is the pro-cast crowd, that they exist only to attempt to "prove wrong" those who are excited for the movie. The racebending movement is a criticism of Hollywood, not of those who criticize people who criticize Hollywood. Your perception of the strength of their slogans is not really no.1 on their list of priorities.


Ok, So given What I already posted about the obviously diverse cast.. here it is again if you missed it:

"Nicola Peltz - Russian
Dev Patel - Indian
Jackson Rathbone - Born in SIngapore other than that his Ethnicity is unknown.
Noah Ringer - One big ?! However, looks asian to some, looks white to some.
Cliff Curits - Maori
Shaun Toub - Persian
Jessica Andres - Filipino
Seychelle Gabriel - Spanish/ Caucasian
Toph - Will be Asian."


And the fact that Noah Ringer could possibly be Asian, or not. What then is their argument when concerning this movie, Abs? :eh:
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby facepalm on Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:14 pm

Just want to point out that Eurasian means mixed-race, hapa, hafu, mestizo, etc. Saying so because many Eurasians or mixed-race people have to pick just one race, which in my honest opinion, is pretty sad and really not accurate nor fair - because it tends to give credit to just one race rather than to two or more races.

Halle Berry is half-black, half-white. Vin Diesel is half-black, half-white. Obama is half-black, half-white. Keanu Reeves is asian-white. Cameron Diaz is latino-white. Mariah Carey is black-white.

Halle Berry, for example, identifies as black which is okay (that's how she wants to be identified), but in a way - it ain't fair because it was her white mom who raised her. She hasn't heard from her black dad since she was four years old. Also, Berry's decision to identify as black had more to do with being discriminated as black rather than of free choice.

Vin Diesel (who looks white) was raised by his black step-father. Obama (who looks black) was raised by his white mother. So, it's kinda racist to focus on just one race, give credit to just one race (or assign blame to just one race), especially when it comes to biracial or multiracial individuals.

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You may recognize him from the craptastic canceled FOX show, Prison Break. He's half-black.


On Wentworth Miller (star of Prison Break) - he's half-black? Wikipedia says he's:

Miller is of multiracial origins; his father is of Jamaican, English, German and Jewish descent, and his mother is of Russian, French, Dutch, Syrian and Lebanese ancestry.


Sounds more like he's 1/9th black, 1/3rd brown, 5/9ths white. I don't think Jews, Syrian and Lebanese count as black.
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby Mindbender on Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:38 pm

facepalm wrote:Sounds more like he's 1/9th black, 1/3rd brown, 5/9ths white. I don't think Jews, Syrian and Lebanese count as black.

The only way to be 1/9 something is is your had three genetic parents, at least one of which also had three genetic parents.
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby captainyodels on Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:06 pm

Allow me to intervene and share how much I enjoy reading the things you post Mindbender.

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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby Mr Suntail on Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:55 pm

Mindbender wrote:
facepalm wrote:Sounds more like he's 1/9th black, 1/3rd brown, 5/9ths white. I don't think Jews, Syrian and Lebanese count as black.

The only way to be 1/9 something is is your had three genetic parents, at least one of which also had three genetic parents.


Mindbender, would it be at all possible with IVF if you played with the genetics some how to achieve the 1/9th? maybe thats the ultimate goal of some scientist somewhere to make people whose genetics can be counted in nineth's :lol:
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby facepalm on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:25 pm

Mindbender wrote:
facepalm wrote:Sounds more like he's 1/9th black, 1/3rd brown, 5/9ths white. I don't think Jews, Syrian and Lebanese count as black.

The only way to be 1/9 something is is your had three genetic parents, at least one of which also had three genetic parents.


You are joking? Cause it is possible to be 1/9th something with just two parents. This just means that your parents and your grandparents and so forth are also multiracial.

And good news for multiracial Americans - apparently their new census no longer tries to box in multiracial people to just one race.
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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby rustedfaith on Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:49 pm

facepalm wrote:Just want to point out that Eurasian means mixed-race, hapa, hafu, mestizo, etc. Saying so because many Eurasians or mixed-race people have to pick just one race, which in my honest opinion, is pretty sad and really not accurate nor fair - because it tends to give credit to just one race rather than to two or more races.



I think that is a bit of a generalisation. I'm mixed race, or eurasian and i wouldn't say i particularly felt the need to lean one way or the other. Proud of both. Sure genetically you might lean towards a particular side slightly more than the other, but i think that it's mainly to do with nurture rather than nature.

To be fair though the strength of animation and cartoons is the fact that it appeals to loads of people. For example a smiley is almost a universal symbol with no cast nor creed and allows us to be involved in the character. Aang is drawn, in a sense much like a smiley. A rounded face structure with eye level set right in the middle (classic cute head structure). There are no distinctive markers of ethnicity at all, apart from obviously being part of the air tribe. So Noah Ringer fits into the role perfectly, and he probably is mixed race.

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Re: What is he? (Noah Ringer)

Postby Metalbender92 on Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:13 pm

Rusted faith has an excellent point. I'm reading Scott McCloud's work, and he points out that the reason cartoon character's are affective is because we see ourselves in them.

I think we can take this literally if the race of a character isn't clearly defined. I guess I saw Aang as white because I'm white. Honestly I never thought about it. But I probably saw him as white because he is an extension of my personality (that's what a cartoon character is).

One of my complaints of the show is that the background characters looked very white. I kept seeing these american-looking characters in this asian environment and it threw me off. So it's not hard to see Aang as white. He looks nothing like any race at all! To go with what rusted faith said, he's the equivalent of a smiley face. He's just a representation of an idea.

Katara and Sokka are clearly inuit, because of their skin tone and how they live. But Aang could be absolutely anything. In fact, half the characters in the show could be any race/ look anything but Asian. Noah Ringer just has to look like Aang, he doesn't have to be a specific race. We don't need to analyze his gene pool ( o.0 ) because it's about how he looks and how he represents the character.
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