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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby Melon Lord's Revenge on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:05 pm

FuFuCuddlyPoofs wrote:
badly bruised muse wrote:
FuFuCuddlyPoofs wrote:Please, I am begging you...
from one parent to another...
DO NOT TAKE YOUR 4 YEAR OLD TO WATCH THIS MOVIE!!!

:roll:

Take him to see the movie. I'm sure he'll love it. Appa is not that scary, if scary at all.


badly bruised muse,
how old are you? and how many kids do you have?
Can you really know the perspective of a 4 year old?

Awaken,
If you take him to see the movie...
watch it after Toy Story 3.
Do not let The Last Airbender be his first time movie experience.
He will be traumatized.


great you made your point...sooo over 4 under 12 and you loved Toy Story 3. got it :thumbsup:
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby badly bruised muse on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:07 pm

FuFuCuddlyPoofs wrote:
badly bruised muse wrote:
FuFuCuddlyPoofs wrote:Please, I am begging you...
from one parent to another...
DO NOT TAKE YOUR 4 YEAR OLD TO WATCH THIS MOVIE!!!

:roll:

Take him to see the movie. I'm sure he'll love it. Appa is not that scary, if scary at all.


badly bruised muse,
how old are you? and how many kids do you have?
Can you really know the perspective of a 4 year old?

Awaken,
If you take him to see the movie...
watch it after Toy Story 3.
Do not let The Last Airbender be his first time movie experience.
He will be traumatized.


Well I was a 4 year old at one point.
I have cousins nieces and nephews.
I don't know why it matters, It doesn't take a degree in child psyche to know that this movie is not going to destroy their innocent minds. He will be there with his son and I'm sure he is a great parent and his son will be safe and sound.
The movie is not going to traumatize his child. You are being very dramatic.
That is my opinion. Awaken will make up his own mind.
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby FuFuCuddlyPoofs on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:16 pm

Awaken,
I am not telling you what to do or how to parent your child.
"Traumatized" is a bit dramatic and extreme...
But, please trust me on this.
A 4 year old is not part of this movie's targeted demographic.
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby Mindbender on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:16 pm

As for whether to take a 4 year old. If you promised him you would take him, you should. It's not good to make promises to small children only to break them. 4 years old is a crucial age in developing a strong internal morality, and having your parents break promises is not good.

As for what "traumatizes" and doesn't "traumatize" children, every kid is different. A kid scared to death of Appa might be fine with a group of toys
slowly sliding into an oveny inferno, coming to grips with their mortality and imminent non-existence
, and other kids might be vice versa. I was terrified of the beer-drinking kids turning into donkeys in Pinocchio when I was 4. I ran out of the room screaming at the top of my lungs. I turned out just fine. Not currently scared of beer turning people into donkeys, as evidenced by my regular beer consumption.
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Actually, the show did have tiger seals.

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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby FuFuCuddlyPoofs on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:27 pm

Mindbender wrote:As for whether to take a 4 year old. If you promised him you would take him, you should. It's not good to make promises to small children only to break them. 4 years old is a crucial age in developing a strong internal morality, and having your parents break promises is not good.

As for what "traumatizes" and doesn't "traumatize" children, every kid is different. A kid scared to death of Appa might be fine with a group of toys
slowly sliding into an oveny inferno, coming to grips with their mortality and imminent non-existence
, and other kids might be vice versa. I was terrified of the beer-drinking kids turning into donkeys in Pinocchio when I was 4. I ran out of the room screaming at the top of my lungs. I turned out just fine. Not currently scared of beer turning people into donkeys, as evidenced by my regular beer consumption.
FuFuCuddlyPoofs wrote:I still can't believe they changed Penguin Seals to Tiger Seals!

Actually, the show did have tiger seals.

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He can still take his son after Toy Story 3 without breaking his promise.

oh.. i take it back.
the show did have tiger seals...
too bad the movie didnt
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby Mai Kunrong on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:44 pm

I'm adding my voice to the "Well Done Review Mindbender" chorus.

I'll attempt to write my own now, but it probably won't be as eloquent. I'll give a game attempt anyway.

I guess the best way to describe what I feel about TLA is... underwhelmed. I had been looking forward to it for so long and so excited to see it come the midnight showing that the lackluster elements that accumulated during the film just kinda watered down my enthusiasm. Its a bummer and a real shame because from all the previews, interviews, footage and everything leading up to the movie, it had so much potential to be really, really awesome. And I think it could've been. Something just went wrong in the execution.

That being said... I can't lie, I did like the movie. On the whole it's not very good, objectively and subjectively alike, but individual bits and pieces made me happy. So I can't say the night and the seven dollars for a ticket was a complete waste. It's just that, while I liked the movie, I really wanted to love it. I really wanted to squee and flail with all my fellow fans afterwards. I really wanted to be cheering my head off at the fist-pumping awesomeness, because that's how the show made me feel and that's what I expected from the pre-movie promotion. I just didn't enjoy the film like I was expecting to. I actually enjoyed Eclipse a lot better when I went to it's midnight showing Tuesday night. So in that regard, it is kind of a letdown.

I'm not going to say it's awful. I have honestly seen WAY worse movies in my time. But I also won't deny that the bad parts soured the whole and dragged the good parts down a few notches. So, for me at least, it's a mixed bag.

The Bad

Writing--

Clumsy. Not very strong. Dialogue is, like many others have said, pretty awkward at times. Cheesy occasionally (though I didn't really mind that) and in some cases repetitive. (Zhao talked about the scroll he'd stolen from the library WAY too often for my taste.) I didn't think it was terrible or piss-poor awful but I'm gonna go with my sister here and says it was "juvenille". M. Night was really out of his element scripting for this film and it shows.

I wasn't bothered by the pronounciation changes since I knew they were coming but it wasn't a big hit with my fellow Avatar friends and the others in the theater. I can understand and sympathize.

Story and Plot--

Mediocre. Never really felt it much. I actually didn't mind the changes and reordering of plot points from what I read of the novelization and manga. All the treatments and script excerpts I'd seen had done a fairly decent job of telling the story. It was different from the source material, obviously, but the treaments seemed like an okay adaptaion of Season One.

The problem is that the movie didn't stick to those treatments. The manga and novelization of the movie actually did a better job of telling the story than the movie itself did, an issue which I think I will have to blame on my next point of contention.

Editing/Pacing--

Ultimately I think this is the film's biggest weakness. I dearly hope there's going to be a director's cut because that's the only way I can explain why the editor did such a hackneyed job. Sometimes it felt like you were speeding through and hitting a series of high points in a rapid-shot sequence, sometimes it felt like it dragged on and lingered too long on certain scenes. It's obvious that huge chunks of the story were cut out, needlessly, and when there was space for them. It's like the editor was either lazy (potentially due to having to par the film down so there was less to 3D-convert, yes I do think that played at least one factor), incompetent, or REALLY had it in for M. Night.

Again, the novelization, the Zuko book special, and the amerimanga did an okay job telling the story, explaining things, and developing characters. I dunno, I think I got really attached to the way they handled it, so whenever the editor chopped a bit of them out it just didn't feel right. And the trailers and TV spots definitely had a bunch of great footage and nice character moments that were awesome and made the movie feel like Avatar and they chopped those bits out too. I uh... I didn't expect to be spoiled to hell and back for the movie from the promotions and tie-ins only to find out those bits were all on the cutting room floor.

I'm not going to blame the poor editing on Night. I think he was burned out and tunnel-visioned by that point. I'll nag at him for the bad writing but I think even that could've been made a little more tolerable/pardonable by better editing.

Basically, I just REALLY miss the Sokka woohoo-ing, opening lantern shot with Sokka and Katara, Kyoshi warriors, and various Kataang moments like the hugging and talking Aang down out of the Avatar State that I was promised.

By the film's advertising.

It might be just me but every time the film did a different take from the trailers/TV spots (saying a line differently, cutting a line, cutting the last half of full scenes, staging the scenes differently), it irked me.

The Good

Cinematography--

There's not denying it; the film was gorgeous. Beautifully shot, lovely scenery. Amazing set direction. Very pretty film.

The Costumes--

Again, gorgeous, lovely, no complaints.

Score--

James Newton Howard can do no wrong. His score is epic and awesome and I'm still buying it.

SFX--

ILM is once again, very awesome. I loved the bending. Water was awesome, fire was awesome, air was awesome, earth was... underutlilzed but awesome. Background and scenery done in CGI were lovely and felt real.

Acting--

Not gonna be ashamed to say it, I thought the whole cast-with one glaring exception, Zhao, which I'll get to later-did a great job, especially with what they were given.

Noah Ringer was Aang. Peroid. He was the best thing about the movie for me. His flashbacks with the Air Nomads were freaking adorable, he emoted well, he was kickbutt. He just rocked. Nicola and Jackson were good, quarrelsome and siblingy. Jackson's Sokka was funny. Shaun Toub and Dev Patel were good. Cliff Curtis was good, and I just ADORED his awesome deep voice. Sechyelle was suprisingly touching. And heck, she had one line and fifteen seconds but Azula was CREEPY AS HELL. Quite a feat to impress in fifteen seconds.

The only one who didn't really act well, in my opinion, was Zhao. Sometimes I could see it but sometimes, eh... I just wasn't feeling it.

Martial Arts/Action--

Great. Exciting. Well-staged, although I did get tired of how there seemed to be so much more movement to bending. Needed more bending, less hand-waving.

Favorite Parts--

Opening and beginning, up until the FN arrived at the village.
The whole Sourthern Air Temple scene where Aang finds out he's alone was very good. (Needlessly truncated at the end but still good.)
I actually loved the montage of the Gaang liberating EK villages.
Blue Spirit+Aang sequence. YES.
Zhao humiliating Zuko in front of his troops at dinner.
Iroh and Zuko in the Fire Nation colony, with the cute Fire Nation girls getting rock candy treats.
All Sokka's funny bits.
Every time Aang and Katara practiced their bending together.
Yue's sacrifice.
All the Air Nomad flashbacks.

In conclusion, it was a disappointment but I can't say I hated it completely or that I didn't enjoy it on some level. I'm going to relegate it to my "Gulity Pleasures" list, but I don't plan on seeing it again. I would recommend buying the tie-in materials instead of going to see the actual film.

It's a bummer, but it's not like it's the end of the world. I feel kind of sad, but I'm not going to rage about it. I'm just going to take a deep breath, step away, and move on.
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby skulldugerry on Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:47 pm

FuFuCuddlyPoofs wrote:This is the perfect example of why
Live Action Adaptations of an Animated Series don't work.
You can't fit 61 episodes of character development into 100 minutes.

The earth bending was weak.
The air bending didn't feel powerful.
The water bending was sad.
The fire bending didn't burn.

All the martial arts were done in poor form
except by the stunt doubles, but that was ruined by bad camera angles and slow motion.
The fight between Zuko and Aang was not choreographed,
they just seemed like 2 kids roughhousing.

The acting was cheezy.
Seems like all the actors' motivations were "depressed" and "stressed"
and the horribly written dialogue was delivered as if it was being read.
Dev Patel and Shaun Toub were the only professionals.

I found it disturbing that Iroh was getting a foot massage
by exotic earth nation slave girl.

I think one of the most important themes of Book 1 was left out.
Katara overcoming gender discrimination.

Zhao's punishment for killing a Spirit Animal
is drowning in a water bubble bended by 4 random water benders?
Really?

I am still sad that the Ocean Spirit was replaced by an anti-climatic tidal wave.
The Ocean Spirit was a homage to Hayao Miyazaki's Forest Spirit from Princess Mononoke.


If book 2 and 3 get filmed...
it needs to go Straight To DVD
unless you get Mike & Bryan full creative control.

Your the example of why you never get better sequels i mean honestly dude haven't we all pointed out all ready that this was chopped alot? so why are you still saying it's a bad film? if anything it's incomplete the only lesson you can learn from this is that never let studios touch your film.
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby Curlzgirl on Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:53 pm

Hey, so I have not posted in a really long time, but I just got back from seeing the movie and I felt the urge to post my impression of it. I see a lot of people have written some pretty long reviews, but I'm going to try and keep mine short.

I thought it was a beautiful movie. A good movie. I'm definetly going to see it again. There was a lot of funny parts which I'm pretty sure were intentional, but a few lines of the dialogue were a bit unintentionally funny I think. I think a lot more could have been shown or spread out over the movie rather than having backgrounds explained in some long speeches, like M. Night was trying to cram all of this information in at once. I'm not necissarily sure it was the running time that hindered the movie as much as that there may have been other ways to spread events over the movie rather than what was actually done (so yes, a pacing issue).
I actually think it was the dialogue that threw off some of the acting. I thought the actors all embodied their characters beautifully. I absolutely loved Noah (his face at the end emoted so strongly and clearly). Katara seemed strong like her character, though, like most of the characters, she didn't seem to get the proper time to show much of her personality. Sokka was hilarious (in my opinion) and I thought he gave off a toned down Sokka vibe, but he could have been used more in the film to up the comedy aspect. Zhao, well, he was jerk, and he was successfully portrayed as a jerk ;) Zuko gave off this awesome conflicted and confused vibe, which I liked. These characters didn't get anough time to shine through and show off their true awesomeness I'm sure they have the potential to show, but it was at least a summary of their personalities, and a beginning. Hopefully, if they make a sequal (with better dialogue XD), they'll delve further in to the characters rather than trying to just fit in all the key points of the season in a small amount of time.
I felt that it was so amazing seeing these beloved characters brought to the big screen. The film might not have been as amazing as it had the potential to be, but it was still a beautiful film. I'm very glad I had a chance to see the characters in live action, and I'm hoping for an improved sequal :D
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby Purple Sparkle on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:05 pm

I loved this movie so much! My theater was packed and everyone left happy :D

I only have two complaints. First of all the movie was too short and so it was a bit rushed. If they decide to make a Directors Cut DVD it will be a wise choice. If they had made the movie half an hour longer there could have been more character development.
Secondly, well, I wasn't a big fan of Jackson as Sokka DX He was good, but he wasn't that funny, but I don't think that was his fault. They should have given him more sarcastic comments and jokes to deliver...
Other than that I loved everything about the movie :D My absolute favorite scene was when Aang and the Blue Spirit fought together @_@
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Re: LAF Reviews of TLA

Postby TheAusMan14 on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:06 pm

Purple Sparkle wrote:I loved this movie so much! My theater was packed and everyone left happy :D

I only have two complaints. First of all the movie was too short and so it was a bit rushed. If they decide to make a Directors Cut DVD it will be a wise choice. If they had made the movie half an hour longer there could have been more character development.
Secondly, well, I wasn't a big fan of Jackson as Sokka DX He was good, but he wasn't that funny, but I don't think that was his fault. They should have given him more sarcastic comments and jokes to deliver...
Other than that I loved everything about the movie :D My absolute favorite scene was when Aang and the Blue Spirit fought together @_@

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